>> manager speaking. >> hi, this is donna at stein meat. we still have a balance of 2,300. >> well, i'm sorry, but somebody from billing is gonna have to get back to you. >> okay. >> this is ira from stein. >> uh, let me call you back. >> bye. not in. [dial tone beeping] [phone dialing] he's not in? >> there's an old balance, 60 days today. >> i just don't have it right now. [phone chimes] >> the number you've dialed is not in service. >> they're out of business. [phones beeping] i can't believe how difficult this is. we can hardly get anyone on the phone, let alone collect money. andy, i have on the balance over 210,000. >> i'll try to straighten it out. >> okay. >> is that all right with you? >> okay, wait. you'll give me extra checks, or you'll-- >> come by tomorrow, and i could try to have a check for you for, like, 5 grand. >> okay, perfect. >> okay. >> all right, andy, i appreciate it. >> bye. >> thank you, bye. >> look, when you're in this much debt, collecting some money is better than collecting no money.